MINITEK 1ST NIGHT, HUNDREDS AT PENN PLAZA TURNED AWAY AT THE DOOR, WILL SHUT DOWN AT 3:30AM

I showed up at about 2am to Penn Plaza on 33rd and 7th and could not believe the line extending around the building and half way up the block. I got in the line which I assumed was for ticket holders and neither line was moving. at about 2:30am the cops started shouting to go home, the show is cancelled. I have no idea how many got in but there was close to a thousand? in line outside.

I spoke to a guy taking pictures for Resident Advisor. He had already been inside but said that they were shutting down at 3:30am. A lot of disappointed people, especially ticket holders. 

I do not expect the same problem at Coney Island tomorrow but will be interested to see if there are any changes to the line up and also to see how the Penn Plaza fire permit thing will work out for tomorrow night. Ticket holders should have priority, at the very least.~JKW

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~ by jaskim on September 13, 2008.

20 Responses to “MINITEK 1ST NIGHT, HUNDREDS AT PENN PLAZA TURNED AWAY AT THE DOOR, WILL SHUT DOWN AT 3:30AM”

  1. http://ih8minimoo.blogspot.com/

    massive fail. a lot of people are really fucking pissed. why this venue? because it was cheap?

  2. well now i cant sleep and not crazy about taking an hour train trip to coney island in a few hours to wait in line again cos i dont have my bracelet.

    anyway, until I learn otherwise, i am blaming new york attitudes towards events such as this, rather than minimoo, who have been successful by staying private and small, up until now… so yes, they may be in over their heads a bit with this one but I hope it’s just a bump in the road for them, no matter how inconveniencing it was.

    At this point, If I can see Format B tomorrow, I will feel a little better about the whole thing.~JKW

  3. I think it’s pretty amateurish to throw a party @ Penn Plaza in the middle of New York City and ‘tourist central’ and NOT expect NYPD to shut it down – regardless of how many people showed up.

  4. p.s.

    Did anyone head over to Rebel? I hear that is where the party moved to.

  5. Yeah, assuming tomorrow goes off without a hitch, it will feel nice to be out in Brooklyn for this type of thing and should be much more relaxed. ~JKW

  6. Yeah i was a little uneasy about the midtown venue……tourist central for real,it was a risk and lets hope for the best for the rest of the festival………..

  7. rebel wad amazing!
    Yes they moved The party over there and it lasted until 8am
    Yes I was very pissed off at the beggining but it all worked out…

  8. we actually got inside and actually made it to rebel afterwards. still pretty disappointed about the whole thing. not sure what to do about coney – a friend just called and said it was delayed for a little while…they aren’t that organized at all.

    no permits on their person and the whole computer system is down.

  9. Yeah 😦 when i got there, there were cops all over the place and they were telling ppl to get of the side walk, very upseting hopefully all goes well today i cant believe i missed paco marco and paul

  10. Amateurish?? They had to know the capacity level…I don’t care what their prior sucess has been, people came in from all over the place. If they cared at all about the people coming out, they would have stopped selling tickets, or done door only…how do you have over a thousand peole, who paid for their tickets standing outside till 3am, and not getting in? And then, miniteck doesn’t even post anything on their website? like it never happened!!! These people are totally greedy and irresponsable.

  11. minimoo u f*ing suck ass! I spent way too much money for the ticket and didn’t get to go to any events since they were so over run. I left the first night before anyone told anyone about rebel n found out at 6am while I was sleeping at home. I waited since June 2nd to see magda ritchie paul ritch paco osauna marco carola format b guy gerber n more. Minimoo how the hell could u over book ur venue by thousands??? it seems to me that someone got money hungry real fast

  12. The Penn Plaza venue lied about its capacity and didn’t even wind up having a certificate of occupancy. The cops let it go on with a very reduced capacity from what Minitek expected.

  13. I don’t understand the whole capacity issue… I waited for 2 and a half hours outside of the venue until NYPD made us leave…a few of us went around the corner and just stood around by what we thought was the side entrance…we came from out of town and had nowhere to go. Within about 15 minutes, hotel staff/security let us (12 people) in. The same guys that were yelling at us to make “two lines, two lines!” for hours were now sneaking us in through the back. We were led up some stairs, through a dirty corridor we nearly had to crawl through it was so tight. They didn’t check us for wristbands or anything. The party was very empty, only a few hundred in there. The whole outside could have easily fit in there. Went to Rebel afterward, pretty trashy. Music was great.

  14. “The party was very empty, only a few hundred in there. The whole outside could have easily fit in there”……………………
    interesting first sentence however i do agree with the second one,i think this venue sidetracked the minitek promoters big time not forgetting the “authorities”………….sorry for everyone really,those coming from far places especially.

  15. What’s interesting about the first sentence?

  16. This is off of their website….I decided to only go on Sunday and really had a great time and feel sad for these guys. If their story is true maybe they can sue and throw a better one next year…well that is if anyone is willing to work with them.

    Minitek Blog has been updated:

    http://minitekfestival.com/blog/

    apologies owed…
    September 16th, 2008 by Jenny

    dear all,

    as we’ve expected, there are many enraged, disappointed and upset people out there that gave minitek’s first edition their support.

    obviously we want to apologize for all the mishaps that have taken place over the weekend and we know well that we can offer little to make up for the bad experiences. we can’t blame you for directing all your anger towards us, as we are the official representatives of the festival, however, to save at least a little bit of face, we would like to set a few things clear.

    1) unlike the comments that have been posted, we DID NOT book a night venue that wouldn’t hold the amount of people we expected. instead we worked with a venue that had misrepresented their certificate of occupancy (the official document that restricts the amount of people the venue can legally hold). there was no reason to believe that the 38.000sf venue couldn’t hold 2500 people at the very least. once the police showed up, the manager of the venue was forced to show the “real” certificate of occupancy and as it turned out, the venue didn’t even have one! the one that was eventually shown to the police was from 1963 and claimed an occupancy of only 208 people, but it was long void as the venue had changed their use a few times since the permit was issued more than 40 years ago.

    2) when we moved to rebel that same night, they had clear instructions to let in everyone with a wristband for free. most people i spoke to didn’t have an issue, but we did read in some posts that people had to pay again, which we deeply regret. at least we were able to salvage paul ritch’s, paco osuna’s, elon’s, memek’s and marco carola’s set, and we hope that we receive at least a little bit of credit for having been able to move to a backup venue within 10 minutes of the news that we were going to get shut down at 3:30am, most festivals would have just ended there.

    3) minitek night was supposed to take place at the penn plaza both nights. the police had notified us that they would accept a maximum of 75 people in the space the second night, so we were obviously forced to work on a contingency plan. as you can imagine, there are hardly any venues in new york city that are large enough to hold several thousand people and second, available on a saturday night. we had to resort to splitting the night into two in order to make sure we could hold as many people as possible and honour the performances of the artists.

    4) as for announcing the night venue change on saturday night, we had posted a sign outside the penn plaza but in a deliberate attempt to sabotage the festival, the sign was removed, possibly by someone affiliated with friday’s venue. rumour had it that webster hall was saturday night’s venue but it was in fact studio b and club europa, not webster hall.

    4) regarding the opening of the second stage on saturday in coney island, it was a delay on the side of the sound production company, and as much as we pressured them, they weren’t able to open the stage until 7pm.

    5) we had requested (and received a verbal ok) for a sound permit until midnight on the saturday and one until 11pm on the sunday. on saturday afternoon, however, we were informed by the authorities that the permit was only until 10pm for the saturday, so we had to cut the set times short. the notice for sunday came on sunday.

    6) the RFID wristbands didn’t work out because they required internet access in order to be charged and loaded. we had ordered (and paid) internet connection at the penn plaza over 4 weeks ago and for the system to work, we would have needed 28 separate IP addresses, one for each reader. we eventually received only 5 IP addresses (without prior notice), and throughout the night, the internet dropped entirely, rendering the whole system useless. we will reimburse money loaded onto the wristbands at the beginning of the night, please get in touch with us on info@minitekfestival.com and keep the wristbands.

    as for the organisation on our end, we admit that there were many mistakes and misjudgements made. had it been only for those though, we would have still been able to pull off the event without major glitches, albeit not as planned but certainly far from the disasters that eventually happened. we take the blame for those but we do hope that you understand that most chaos was caused by the night venue’s misrepresentation, which – straightout- f***ed us over, collected ten thousands of dollars from us and left us stranded. you can imagine the value lost from 1500 people that couldn’t enter that night, those who couldn’t enter the next night, let alone the big hit on our reputation.

    all in all, as much as many of you had a terrible experience, you can’t even possibly imagine how we feel about the festival. apart from all personal money invested and lost, we also dedicated months and months of our time and all our energy and passion to making something happen that new york had never seen before. we had a vision and seeing the aftermath of everything almost kills our spirit.

    we obviously understand that those of you who didn’t make it in on friday or saturday night are requesting refunds. but we also know that the more people are requesting refunds, the less likely it will be that we’ll be able to do minitek again in 2009, having learned from our experiences this year. we would really love to receive a second chance, to prove that we can in fact pull it off. refund policies are going to be published on wednesday.

    a million things went wrong this year but the turnout proves that at least the idea of minitek wasn’t totally crazy and unless we’re fully deluded we did see and spoke to thousands of happy faces over the weekend, dancing, enjoying the music and thanking us for making minitek happen in the first place. rich’s and francois k’s closing sets surely were epic. and while the angry festival-goers are voicing their opinions on blogs and message boards, the satisfied attendees are silent.

    so, a big apology to all of you who felt mistreated this weekend, we certainly had no intentions of delivering less than we promised. and a big “thank you” to those who still support us and who believe that with great lessons learned, we’ll be able to give new york the festival it deserves next year!

    love,

    jenny, daniele & the whole minitek team

    please feel free to send us evil emails to info@minitekfestival.com and in case there are people out there who would like to drop us a line of support, please do so. in times like today, a few kind words surely go a long way…

  17. yeah, i feel horrible for people coming in from out of town (especially from europe, where festivals way bigger than this go off with little drama). of course, some snags are expected for 1st-time festival organizers, but the whole thing was ridiculously amateur. they had a staff of SIX people organizing this with a team of volunteers??

    the fucked up thing is that i got to penn plaza really early (11pm), waited on line for 2 hours because the RFID system crashed (so much for their “focus on innovation and technology”). meanwhile i’m seeing people cutting us in line and paying cash to get in before willcall guests! so i finally get in and it’s half empty. i was later told they weren’t letting people in but the fucked up thing is that they told people they party was CANCELED, not moved.

    paul ritch, and the 3 hour tag team between marco carola and paco osuna was seriously some of the best techno i’ve ever heard in my life. i had friends who had weekend passes and didn’t get in, and no refunds were issued. i can’t believe minimoo has the nerve to say “the more people request refunds, the less likely we’ll throw another event next year”! playing the victim and expecting us not to be pissed or feel cheated, and pocketing the cash.

    one of my friends played and said that hardly any of the artists even got paid or got cabs/drinks. TOTALLY fucked up and unprofessional…

    ugh i could go on, but my sympathy goes out to the out-of-towners and artists who will never come back to nyc bc of this debacle!

  18. RA – minitek organizers speak out

    http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=9643

  19. […] much fun and shut us down.  Lots of drama that I shant bore you with.  Unless you’re into that sorta thing […]

  20. […] posts on RedBeatle.Wordpress.com, Basstown.Blogspot.com and Jaskim.com describe confusion that ensued. Someone also posted their to the Resident Advisor forums. Of […]

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